Price

eccentricity

Preparation:

Don't true the tire visually by the tread or the base tape.

Actually look at how it spins.

Mount them dry and massage them into the rim at 3 bars pressure, and then leave over night them at 8-9 bar.

Thinly apply glue onto the the base tape, then let set for 20 min.

Installation:

Liberally apply mastik one pro glue around the rim.

Leave them at 7 bars for 5-6 hours at 50-75 % humidity and room temperature for 5-6 hours.

robust ,good grip cheap

heavy and if not prepared right prone to puncture

i really do laugh at people who buy a tub and expect it to work wonders without 1 stretching it dry on the rim to 100psi for at least a week .2 once glued on repeat pump up to 100 psi then leave for 24 hours before riding ,if you dont stretch your tyre it cannot mould to your rim and so cannot react with the rim to deflect anything sharp ,if you use tub tape then fine ride straight away but only pump to about 80 psi then later on down the road up to full pressure this of course sounds like alot to do and maybe bull ,but ive been riding tubs for 35 years so i know a bit these rally tyres are not the best but for the price they are damn good !

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continental giro

Cheap

Not super light

Who are you people who blow out tires like every 100 miles, and get flats like every time you ride? If you don't ride like a dumbass and look where you put your wheels I bet you will get fewer flats. Also if I paid $10 for these and they were billed as training tires I would be pist if they lasted 1000 miles, but they were 25 dollars

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Tufo S22
Vittoria Evo CX

Price, durability(run them at 7 bar, and they will last longer and ride better)

Sometimes not perfectly round.....

I find some of the reviews quite amusing.....it is been my experience, that many times when someone has a problem with an item, the problem is with the person, not the item. I am a "Vintage" Cyclist, who rides an immaculate 1980 Gios Torino Super Record, about 3500 miles a year. I buy 4 Vittoria Rally Tubulars a year, and they deliver EVERYTHING that a TRAINING tire could, and should deliver for 1/4th the cost of a RACING tubular. You get what you pay for....a decent training tire, that if you do get a flat, you are not out $100.00 !!

Non

Unreliable

I have to say that these tires aren't worth the glue to put them on. I only had them on a week when they sprung a mysterious leak that I can't find without ripping out all of the stitching and submerging the tub under water. The air comes out a hole in the casing , but the leak is elsewhere as I opened up the casing, pulled out as much tube and I dared and submerged it under water and watched it deflate, but no bubbles from the submerged section.

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Panaracer Practice Dual TG

They hold up fine. They are basically round. They are rubber. They hold air (better than my $80 race tires do, for that matter.) They aren''t clinchers. What do you want here? It''s a training tire. They aren''t terribly light, they aren''t terribly round. In fact, I was a little surprised at the remarkably low rolling resistance, but I guess that might come from riding them at 9bar. For crying out loud, it''s a 6 dollar tire. That''s its strength right there. You can spend $12 on a tube these days.

If I were trying to race on these, I would complain that they bulge in a couple places and that they weigh more than the rims they''re glued to. But I''m not trying to race on them, because that''s what my racing tires are for. Just like I wouldn''t race on rims built in the early 80s. Sheesh. As a training tire, you can''t get a cheaper tubular.

So really, all of the griping below is more than a little out of hand. These are a [i]training[/i] tire, not a race tire. More to the point, they are a winter trainging tire; lower speeds, wet conditions, all around nasty. They don''t have to be light, they don''t have to be terribly round, they just have to be cheap. I had a set of Omega Stradas laced to an aging set of 105 hubs to build up a reasonably heavy, mildly aero wheelset for less than $150 including labor, and I glued these bad boys onto them. The goal wasn''t speed or light weight or screaming descents, it was just something that I can put low intensity miles on without costing myself a fortune.

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I''ve tried the Tufo trainers, and for the substantial difference in cost, it ain''t worth it. Veloflex Servizio Corses, Vittoria Corsa CXs, but those are race tires so it''s not really the same thin